dave is so cool more like

john john john validate me john john john john john john john john pay attention to me john john john



i don’t need you

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[TW: Abuse, abuse apologism] Things That Bro Would Never Do: A Comprehensive List






  1. Abuse Dave
  2. Abuse Dave
  3. Abuse Dave
  4. Abuse Dave

thank and god bless


im curious how you came to this conclusion and what you consider abuse


I’m actually going to give this a response because it’s an attitude I see a lot in fandom and it honestly kind of disturbs me.

First off, I want to say that I believe that you can interpret Dave and Bro’s relationship as non-abusive if you want. You can do that! Their relationship in-comic is played in a pretty light-hearted way. Homestuck has a lot of that. The bizarre and weird and scary is completely normal and mundane in a lot of places. 

But the other thing about Homestuck is you never know when something’s going to be dark humor played light or dark humor played very, very dark. There is some _dark shit_ in Dave and Bro’s relationship and if you’re going to be making sweeping statements about how he would or wouldn’t ever treat Dave, you need to be able to realize that.

Here are factual events that occurred in the Strider household in canon, with no embellishments or delving behind their psychological or physical ramifications:

-There was no food kept in the kitchen. If Dave wanted to keep food, he had to hide it in his room.

-There were sex toys/pornography paraphernelia laying around out in the open.

-There were really dangerous objects laying around and stuffed into appliances, such as fireworks and swords.

-Bro set up at least one webcam to secretly capture his brother doing something that Dave assumed (rightly or wrongly) would go on one of his porn websites.

-Bro screwed around with Dave by making things move when he wasn’t looking and posting up creepy comics on doors and just generally manipulating his environment to be one of anxiety and uncertainty.

-Bro elbowed Dave down a flight of stairs.

In Homestuck, all of these things are played off as humorous or ordinary. Of course Bro keeps porn-puppets all over the house, dude likes puppets and it’s hilarious when Dave is buried in a cascade of them and starts talking about coarse kermit cocks dragging down his anguished face. The scene in the kitchen where Dave fucks around with the weapons and fireworks is clearly meant to be hilarious and I think it works. As far as strifing goes, that’s pretty normal in-universe.

Here’s the thing, though. If Dave Strider were a real person who was really being treated this way, it would be abusive. It would be a toxic, unsafe household for a child. If your friend lived with a guardian who didn’t feed them, left sex toys and porn laying around, put weapons in the fridge and sink, put sex toys in the microwave, filmed them to put them on a porn website, repeatedly played screwy mindgames with them specifically engineered to freak them out, and fought with them and then pushed them down the stairs, you would think your friend was being abused.

The lack of food is neglect, plain and simple. Dave has to hoard food away in order to be able to have it. The mindgames are emotional abuse. Purposely freaking people out can be funny if you do it sometimes, but when you’re a guardian and you do it constantly and repeatedly to the child in your care, you are abusing them. You’re making their home unsafe and making them feel undue anxiety. I can personally tell you that the ways my dad used to screw with me left me literally terrified for hours that I was going to die and very likely contributed to some of my current hugely irrational fears that continue to make me be terrified for literally hours at a time that I’m going to die. It may seem like harmless fun, but fucking with someone’s head like that has consequences.

The strifing is physical abuse. I know that everyone strifes with their parents in Homestuck, but every single other kid shown is in absolutely no danger of physical harm. Dave gets thrown across the roof and down the stairs. Yes, Bro is teaching him martial arts, but teaching someone how to fight does not involve potentially fatally injuring them. You don’t teach someone to fight by just straight up beating the shit out of them. This is also heavily implied to happen on a regular basis; John talks to either Rose or Jade and says he’s pretty sure Dave is probably off getting his ass kicked by his Bro at one point.

And now I want to talk about the smuppets and the pornography. The smuppets are scattered around the house and Dave is clearly aware they’re sex toys and that his brother makes porn for a living. I want to make it very clear that I do not think there’s anything wrong with sex toys, or porn, or making porn, or making porn for a living, or doing any kind of sex work whatsoever while raising a kid, or letting your kid know - in a child-appropriate manner - what your job is. I think that a lot of times kids get really unnecessarily shielded from sexually in a way that is really damaging, and it’s okay to let a kid know that sex is a thing that exists, people have it, it’s totally natural and normal.

HOWEVER. There is a difference between letting a kid know about sex and them going to look up porn on their own and experiment with their own sexuality and forcing them to look at pornographic material and sex toys. Exposing a child to pornography is legally sexual abuse. Dave is unquestionably exposed to pornography in a completely nonconsensual way. He didn’t seek his brother’s porn out, he doesn’t try to find smuppet porn online; it’s all just laying out there in the living room where he literally cannot avoid it if he wants to go anywhere in the house. The fact that he gets filmed for what _he assumes_ is a smuppet movie would almost definitely be considered sexual abuse too. He is, without his permission or knowledge, filmed for pornography, as a thirteen year old. The fact that he assumes that’s what it’s for right off the bat leads me to believe that this has happened multiple times.

So as you can see, there is actually a lot of potential for abuse in the Strider household. It’s not played that way in the comic because the comic is very light-hearted in a lot of ways, but that doesn’t mean the situation is actually different. 

Now I want to address the two most common arguments that I see for this, which are 

a) Bro loves Dave

b) Bro is helping Dave get strong so he can succeed at the game.

First off, no one is questioning that Bro loves Dave. Bro being abusive is not mutually exclusive with Bro loving Dave. Abusers are most commonly people known and trusted by the victim, often family or significant others, which means that there’s going to be a strong emotional bond there. You can love someone to the point where you would die for them - as Bro did for Dave - and still abuse them. Trying to say that Bro can’t be abusive because he loves Dave is actually really, really, _really_ fucking dangerous, because that’s something that gets used to excuse, cover up, and ignore actual real-life abuse. It’s something abuse-sympathizers and abusers themselves say.

"He loves you, he’s not abusing you." 

"How can you say I abused you? I love you so much!"

By assuming that love and abuse can’t co-exist, you are personally directly contributing to a culture where people being abused by a loved one can’t get help and aren’t believed. It’s a very common and very widespread belief and I don’t blame anyone personally for holding that view out of ignorance, but I do and will blame them if they continue to hold that view after being told otherwise. It’s actively damaging to real people.

Secondly, there’s the defense that Bro is just trying to help make Dave stronger. These two are both very similar and they have very similar rebuttals: you can love someone and want to help them and still hurt them.

Hurting someone in order to help them is _still hurting them._ It doesn’t magically not hurt because you had good intentions. If I tackle you to the ground and break your ribs in order to keep you from getting hit by a car, I still broke your ribs.

I agree that Bro strifes with Dave in order to prepare him for SBURB. Dave comes into it being one of the best fighters, but that honestly means very little. John, who has the least experience, ends up advancing the quickest and mastering the offensive use of his aspect really fast, so previous combat experience doesn’t have much of an impact here. 

The headgames and manipulation and attempts to model a stoic, emotionless manner of existence for Dave - which Dave is incredibly unsuccessful at emulating, and it’s really sad how hard he tries when that is just not who he is - are probably also meant to help him. Again, they don’t, really. In fact, I’d say the way Dave feels like he needs to put on a stoic face and not ever be sincere about anything is detrimental to him in a big way. It’s refuting and quashing his own personality as a sensitive kid and trying to make yourself be the opposite of what you are is never good.

So Bro tried to help Dave, but he obviously hurt him instead. That doesn’t mean he didn’t try to help, but trying doesn’t mean you succeed and even if you do succeed, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt.

This is another thing that also happens to real people. Their parents think they know what’s best so they push their child along THEIR idea of a successful path, sometimes brutally punishing the tiniest step off that path, so kids have to grow up hiding who they really are and in fear of actually expressing themselves, terrified that if they don’t succeed their parents won’t love them.

A big thing that I think goes on is that people also assume that abuse happens because you hate and want to hurt someone, so those defenses make sense. But that’s not why abuse happens. Abusers aren’t faceless monsters who hurt people just to hurt them. Abuse isn’t that soap opera story of the distant, drunk father who hates his kids and beats them because he thinks they ruined his life.

Abuse can happen on a variety of levels and for a variety of reasons. You can hurt someone because you’re stressed and angry and you lash out without meaning to. You can hurt someone because you make constantly hurtful comments and disrespect them and their boundaries without ever realizing that’s what you’re doing. You can hurt someone because you feel entitled to their time or affection. You can hurt someone because you don’t realize what you’re doing is inappropriate. You can hurt someone because you want to make them better, mold them into a stronger person, but you have no idea what they really want and aren’t willing to listen to them.

None of these things are hatred or sadism. A lot of them happen because the abuser really cares about their victim and expresses that in fucked up, damaging ways.

Abuse is still abuse, though, no matter the circumstances or reasoning behind it. Just because Bro thinks he’s doing what’s best for Dave doesn’t mean it’s actually what’s best for Dave and it doesn’t mean it isn’t really fucked up and hurtful and damaging to Dave.

If you don’t want to write Dave being abused, that’s fine. If you don’t want to have to deal with the psychological aftermath of a kid raised in a neglectful household by someone who fucked with them constantly, physically hurt them, and exposed them against their will to pornography, then I would in fact really prefer you didn’t, because either you aren’t willing or just can’t put in the effort to portray it well and this is a serious topic. 

But please stop saying that there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WHATSOEVER Bro could have been abusive.

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Fan art of some scenes in egbertiian’s Apocalypse AU Freight. I really like the moments between siblings and cousins in this fic. Also I listened to Black Parade repeatedly when drawing these (though the song fits Part II better).

She’d be proud of all of them.

She’d be proud of all of them.

Anonymous said: Instead of the idea of counjuring their Lusii with a Patronus charm, I always thought Eridan would summon the angels from LOWAA as his Patronus. And try to actually attack the dementors rather than guard. They would scare the hell out of everybody (including himself) considering they were these weird, Anti-Dementors. After that Eridan's wary against using a Patronus because of what it entails.

I don’t think the angels are inherently violent though, more likely they only become hostile when provoked. Also the Patronus charm produces a guardian or protector, but I doubt Eridan would see the angels as such, given how he hunted them down on LOWAA. 

Anonymous said: What house is Equius in for hogwartsstuck? (Or is he a forest-centaur rather than a student?)

I headcanon Equius as a Ravenclaw who does take an interest in centaurs (including Firenze the Divination professor). He and Nepeta have probably sneaked into the Forbidden Forest more than once.



It bothered me that there were no Squibs allowed in Hogwarts. Fine, I can get that Squibs would not be able to do any wand magic, and would not be able to fly a broomstick. They still apparently possess enough innate magic to see the school and other magically hidden locations. Out of the classes at Hogwarts that the kids take, a Squib could take and benefit from the following classes: History of Magic, Astronomy, Divination, Care of Magical Creatures, Herbology, MUGGLE STUDIES, Potions (there will be little foolish wand-waving here), Arithmancy, Ancient Runes, and partially theoretical classes on Defense Against the Dark Arts and Charms.

That’s a long list of classes. And some of them are particularly upsetting to me because there’s stuff like History of Magic being left out- that’s their own history they’re being barred from learning. Since Squibs are often forced into the Muggle world, a Squib would make an ideal Muggle Studies teacher and would no doubt be able to teach a more realistic and informative class than someone going off of biased wizarding texts. Squib kids looking into living in the Muggle world would absolutely benefit from learning Muggle studies, especially if they’re from a mainly pureblood family who doesn’t venture out all too often.

And then there’s the rest of them! Arguably you could have a Squib gifted with prescience, and Divination is supposed to be a very accessible branch of magic. Squibs being excellent at taking care of magical plants and animals and making groundbreaking advancements, Squibs working in tandem with each other to breed different magical herbs for potions, Squib potion masters creating all sorts of amazing concoctions. Squibs working with muggleborns and using logic and science to advance magic theoretically, Squibs being huge pro-muggleborn/pro-muggle advocates, Squibs making star charts and Squibs going into the muggle world to use their healing potions in their jobs as nurses and doctors.

Squibs being so completely shut out of magical education was such a sore point for me in the books, especially viewing the treatment of our only prominent Squib- an angry, bitter, glorified janitor often at the mercy of brats with wands. I’m not justifying or endorsing his abusiveness at all, but this was an awful character to use to explore people without magic in a society that bases your worth on it. A lot of time Rowling seems to validate Wizarding prejudices more than she challenges them. While I really enjoy reading the headcanons about Hogwarts being very accessible to people with disabilities, I can’t bring myself to see that as the case with Squibs being treated as they are. 


Just because they can’t do magic with wands doesn’t mean they should be shunted to the fringes of the culture they were raised in! I know it’s based around magic, but imagine being a wizard shoved into the Muggle word where you can’t even get your favorite candy!

They should have some kind of course that’s compulsory for squibs and purebloods, some half-bloods … basically anyone raised in a Magical family. It’d be a bit like how some Muggle schools have Home Ec, but it’d be like “Okay, poof, you can’t use a wand FOR ANYTHING” Muggle Cooking/Muggle Sewing-Mending/Muggle Currency/Muggle Adulting. It’d include field trips to Muggle London toward the end of the year, etc.

AND a squib may very well have children who ARE magical - JKR kinda said at some point that Muggleborns usually had some wizard or squib way back in their family tree.

Would being a squib suck - not just because of the social stigma (which is huge) but because YOU CAN’T DO MAGIC? Yes. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to function or make you own choices!

And something like Defense Against the Dark Arts would be vital - at least recognizing the spells and more mundane stuff like “Eat chocolate if Dementor”.

Because guess who the Nazi-esque Dark Wizards are going to come after? If you’re a squib? That would be you.

Care of Magical Creatures is also useful for certain career paths and isn’t really limited by your magical ability. At the very least you’d know what to do if a Knarl showed up and how to distinguish it from a regular hedgehog.

You’d still send mail via Owl Post if you wanted.

Being a squib could be viewed as a sort of disability, and in the Muggle world at least we’re usually required to MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS for people who are disabled. (Doesn’t always work out real well because of funding and douchebaggery, unfortunately, but there are LAWS.)

You know what else would be helpful? Knowledge of stuff like “If you’re poisoned, a bezoar will probably save you.”

I’m unclear on whether a squib could actually brew a potion or if you have to be inherently magical, but knowledge of them would sure help - appearance, taste, effects, etc.

So when most of the class is working on the practical aspects of stuff, give the Squib students assignments that will help them at least RECOGNIZE what’s going on and generally prepare them for both life in the Muggle World OR life in the Wizarding World and make it THEIR CHOICE.

I want to see a squib - NOT FILCH - who DOES choose to stay in the Wizarding World despite the discrimination and difficulty and gets a job. (And doesn’t take a lot of shit.) You don’t need magic to run a bookshop (for example) generally. That’s business and accounting and customer service! Muggles manage it! (Okay, It might HELP if you had an assistant for Just In Case, but I figured that books like The Invisible Book of Invisibility or The Monster Book of Monsters - and even then I’d imagine that knowing to stroke the spine a Squib could handle it - would be the minority.)

I want magically-abled relatives and friends to come to the Squib character kind of embarrassedley because they need to use the Muggle world and “Muggle money/clothes/mail/whatever - HOW DO THEY FUCKING WORK?” (Cue some degree of well-deserved smugness.)

And since the Wizarding World is bigoted as all hell, how about some kind of Squib support group that rallies for Squib rights?

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Anonymous said: While you see Jade in Ravenclaw, I see her more as a Gryffindor. As much as she likes learning about physics and building robots in the comic, she seems to place a high value on courage and strength to save her friends, so much that she feels disgust on the cowardly Jadesprite. She also hates being seen as weak and would at times act recklessly before thinking about the consequences such as Dream Jade saving Dream John which led to her death.

I’m actually pretty flexible with my sorting headcanons for most of the characters, including Jade, so I can see her being sorted into Gryffindor for all the reasons you listed. The reason I put her in Ravenclaw in the photosets (besides her being a genius) is because I wanted all the Beta kids to be in different houses and because Jade would love the Ravenclaw common room. It’s not very good reasons, I admit, but again I’m not refuting Gryffindor Jade.

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Seriously any characterization of Jade pining after boys is totally bogus. We have Karkat getting into a fight with himself about whether he’s flirting with her in front of her. Dave’s all hey jade i made you some music hey jade i made an ironic fursona hey hey why are you talking to john you should be talking to me and Tavros goes hi I killed your grandpa do you want to go out with me }:)

This is particularly nauseating if paired with suave coolkid Dave (I’ve never seen anyone attempt a suave Tavros or Karkat, thank god, although sometimes they try to go the gritty protector Karkat route which is almost as laughable) because if Dave had made it to high school he’d be the kid who got dumped in the trashcan during freshman orientation 

any high school au where you have dave being genuinely cool and popular is probably horrendously ooc and anywhere you have jade trailing after people like a lonely puppy waiting to get noticed is even more so  (via deliverusfromsburb)

More Hogwartstuck, wherein Jade and Nepeta proceed to sneak into the restricted section of the Library; the usually calm and collected Slytherin Rose gets all flustered and tongue-tied around Hufflepuff Kanaya; and Terezi conjures a Patronus that can chase away hundreds of Dementors (though I don’t know which memory she’s using to fuel it).